Comments on: Wikipedia uses Citizendium article without attribution http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/ Weblog about the Citizendium project and its Citizens. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:24:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: cow_2001 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-887 cow_2001 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:34:55 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-887 All in all, I love both Wikipedia and Citizendium. All in all, I love both Wikipedia and Citizendium.

]]> By: Jane Barrios http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-894 Jane Barrios Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:29:30 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-894 So what exactly do you expect to see on Wikipedia, if some of your content is used? Credit in an edit summary? A citation? A full out template with a link? Technically, they shouldn't be crediting CZ at all, should they? I thought under the GFDL people maintained their own copyright, and the site hosting the content technically owned nothing at all. So then shouldn't it be the individual authors credited? By that note, you didn't list the contributors to this CZ article, so there was no one to credit. Correct me if I'm wrong. And if you're no longer planning a "progressive fork", why not get all the contributors to relicense the content under the Creative Commons Attribution license, so that the material can't be copied at all? So what exactly do you expect to see on Wikipedia, if some of your content is used?

Credit in an edit summary? A citation? A full out template with a link? Technically, they shouldn’t be crediting CZ at all, should they?

I thought under the GFDL people maintained their own copyright, and the site hosting the content technically owned nothing at all. So then shouldn’t it be the individual authors credited? By that note, you didn’t list the contributors to this CZ article, so there was no one to credit. Correct me if I’m wrong.

And if you’re no longer planning a “progressive fork”, why not get all the contributors to relicense the content under the Creative Commons Attribution license, so that the material can’t be copied at all?

]]> By: Neville English http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-2649 Neville English Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:45:29 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-2649 This poses a problem. Citizendium cannot move from Beta to Live until the problem of attribution according to the GFDL is sorted, because it would be absolutely panned. I came across this when looking at the Karl Popper article which is basically the Wikipedia article with tweaks. The only link (as of 25feb07) is a link to the Citizendium Wikipedia article - which doesn't exist. Not exactly compliant! This poses a problem. Citizendium cannot move from Beta to Live until the problem of attribution according to the GFDL is sorted, because it would be absolutely panned. I came across this when looking at the Karl Popper article which is basically the Wikipedia article with tweaks. The only link (as of 25feb07) is a link to the Citizendium Wikipedia article - which doesn’t exist. Not exactly compliant!

]]> By: Larry Sanger http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-2671 Larry Sanger Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:41:38 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/01/25/wikipedia-uses-citizendium-article-without-attribution/#comment-2671 Neville, what facts determine what is "in compliance"? The GFDL appears to require all sorts of absurd things, which answers.com for instance does not satisfy. Neville, what facts determine what is “in compliance”? The GFDL appears to require all sorts of absurd things, which answers.com for instance does not satisfy.

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