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	<title>Comments on: We ain&#8217;t elitist</title>
	<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/</link>
	<description>Weblog about the Citizendium project and its Citizens.</description>
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		<title>By: ZachPruckowski</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-5684</link>
		<author>ZachPruckowski</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-5684</guid>
					<description>So Larry, exactly how much time do you spend on "HotOrNot"?  :-)

Anyways, you're certainly right.  Even in things like Linux and Open Source, there's still a hierarchy where experts fulfill certain roles.  If you want to add code to Linux, it's going through 2-3 people who certify it before it stands a chance of getting into the main branch.  Just like here your contributions go through 1-2 editors before getting into an approved article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Larry, exactly how much time do you spend on &#8220;HotOrNot&#8221;?  <img src='http://blog.citizendium.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyways, you&#8217;re certainly right.  Even in things like Linux and Open Source, there&#8217;s still a hierarchy where experts fulfill certain roles.  If you want to add code to Linux, it&#8217;s going through 2-3 people who certify it before it stands a chance of getting into the main branch.  Just like here your contributions go through 1-2 editors before getting into an approved article.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Ewen</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-5895</link>
		<author>Stephen Ewen</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-5895</guid>
					<description>What's "HotOrNot"? :D

At any rate, it is *very* useful to see these categorized like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s &#8220;HotOrNot&#8221;? <img src='http://blog.citizendium.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>At any rate, it is *very* useful to see these categorized like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-6075</link>
		<author>Anthony</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-6075</guid>
					<description>So Larry, how much time do you spend reading newspapers? (Sorry - the parallelism with comment 1 was too good to pass up.)

Newspaper reporters are hardly experts on anything, and most magazine reporters aren't a lot better. There's something called the "sportswriter test" - does a reporter know as much about the subject (s)he is covering as the sportswriters for the paper know about the sports they cover? Most newspapers will fail badly at that test for most other subjects. The Wall Street Journal's business writers pass, and many papers will have one or two reporters who know all about one of the areas they cover, but overall, newspapers are more around level 3.5 - semi-experts or even interesed amateurs are able to participate, but there are non-expertise-related barriers to entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Larry, how much time do you spend reading newspapers? (Sorry - the parallelism with comment 1 was too good to pass up.)</p>
<p>Newspaper reporters are hardly experts on anything, and most magazine reporters aren&#8217;t a lot better. There&#8217;s something called the &#8220;sportswriter test&#8221; - does a reporter know as much about the subject (s)he is covering as the sportswriters for the paper know about the sports they cover? Most newspapers will fail badly at that test for most other subjects. The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s business writers pass, and many papers will have one or two reporters who know all about one of the areas they cover, but overall, newspapers are more around level 3.5 - semi-experts or even interesed amateurs are able to participate, but there are non-expertise-related barriers to entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sanger</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-6111</link>
		<author>Larry Sanger</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-6111</guid>
					<description>What reporters are expert about is journalism itself.  So the point in the list above is that one really must be a hifalutin expert ''journalist'' if you want a job at a big newspaper or magazine.  By the way, I spend a lot of time being interviewed by reporters and have done so since 1999.  The experience has given me a lot of respect for their work -- particularly for the good ones.  It is very difficult for most people to get things down as accurately as most journalists are able to do; there really is expertise required to do it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What reporters are expert about is journalism itself.  So the point in the list above is that one really must be a hifalutin expert &#8221;journalist&#8221; if you want a job at a big newspaper or magazine.  By the way, I spend a lot of time being interviewed by reporters and have done so since 1999.  The experience has given me a lot of respect for their work &#8212; particularly for the good ones.  It is very difficult for most people to get things down as accurately as most journalists are able to do; there really is expertise required to do it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizendium Blog &#187; Reply to Nicholas Carr</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-9829</link>
		<author>Citizendium Blog &#187; Reply to Nicholas Carr</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-9829</guid>
					<description>[...] just a cheap shot for rhetorical glitter.  I mean, sheesh.  CZ ain&#8217;t elitist; we occupy the middle ground.  If there is a &#8220;cult of the expert,&#8221; it can be found in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] just a cheap shot for rhetorical glitter.  I mean, sheesh.  CZ ain&#8217;t elitist; we occupy the middle ground.  If there is a &#8220;cult of the expert,&#8221; it can be found in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Citizendium Blog &#187; Confused about Citizendium</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-34917</link>
		<author>Citizendium Blog &#187; Confused about Citizendium</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-34917</guid>
					<description>[...] the name, is formed from &#8220;Citizens&#8217; Compendium.&#8221; That&#8217;s our identity. We ain&#8217;t elitist. At present, we have around 2000 authors drawn from the general public, and some 200 expert [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the name, is formed from &#8220;Citizens&#8217; Compendium.&#8221; That&#8217;s our identity. We ain&#8217;t elitist. At present, we have around 2000 authors drawn from the general public, and some 200 expert [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Who Wants to Scrawl a Knol? or, How Stickypedia is Wikipedia? &#171; The New Market Machines</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-59870</link>
		<author>Who Wants to Scrawl a Knol? or, How Stickypedia is Wikipedia? &#171; The New Market Machines</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-59870</guid>
					<description>[...] how the project describes itself: Outrageously false.  How many times do we have to say this?  We ain&#8217;t elitist.  This myth does a huge disservice to the project, because it leads &#8220;non-experts&#8221; to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] how the project describes itself: Outrageously false.  How many times do we have to say this?  We ain&#8217;t elitist.  This myth does a huge disservice to the project, because it leads &#8220;non-experts&#8221; to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Citizendium Blog &#187; Reactionary?</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-75738</link>
		<author>Citizendium Blog &#187; Reactionary?</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-75738</guid>
					<description>[...] the Citizendium.  It is very sad that some people still think that we are an experts-only project; we aren&#8217;t, as anyone who has investigated us the slightest bit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the Citizendium.  It is very sad that some people still think that we are an experts-only project; we aren&#8217;t, as anyone who has investigated us the slightest bit [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Citizendium Blog &#187; How to get a quick start on CZ</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-89108</link>
		<author>Citizendium Blog &#187; How to get a quick start on CZ</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/03/28/we-aint-elitist/#comment-89108</guid>
					<description>[...] not? &#8220;We ain&#8217;t elitist.&#8221; Experts and the general public work well together, shoulder-to-shoulder. How can it possibly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] not? &#8220;We ain&#8217;t elitist.&#8221; Experts and the general public work well together, shoulder-to-shoulder. How can it possibly [&#8230;]</p>
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