Comments on: CZ invites “bottom-up leadership” http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/ Weblog about the Citizendium project and its Citizens. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:43:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: GerardM http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-7055 GerardM Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:08:43 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-7055 Hoi, Because of your requirements of having a PHD you have effectively destroyed my interest in doing anything for your project. Your argument that you have to have one is one I will not dispute. It is your premise for doing your thing. However, there are sufficient people who are acknowledged experts in what they do that they do not need a PHD to establish their reputation as a real world "expert". In the same way, as I cannot be in, I am out. This includes organisational stuff. You cannot have it both ways. PS You are learning the Wikipedia lesson I notice... Thanks, GerardM Hoi,
Because of your requirements of having a PHD you have effectively destroyed my interest in doing anything for your project. Your argument that you have to have one is one I will not dispute. It is your premise for doing your thing. However, there are sufficient people who are acknowledged experts in what they do that they do not need a PHD to establish their reputation as a real world “expert”.

In the same way, as I cannot be in, I am out. This includes organisational stuff. You cannot have it both ways.

PS You are learning the Wikipedia lesson I notice…

Thanks,
GerardM

]]> By: Larry Sanger http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-7104 Larry Sanger Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:19:48 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-7104 Gerard, you don't have to have a Ph.D. to participate. What on Earth gave you that idea? Most of our contributors, who are authors, don't have one. Indeed, a Ph.D. is not even an absolutely necessary requirement for being an editor. It depends on the field, and other means of proving your knowledge can suffice. But we can't just take your word for it, if that's what you wanted us to do. As to the "Wikipedia lesson," my friend, as co-founder of Wikipedia, I am as responsible as anyone for teaching that lesson to the world. It's just that my understanding of the requirements of a good encyclopedia project are now more sophisticated. Gerard, you don’t have to have a Ph.D. to participate. What on Earth gave you that idea? Most of our contributors, who are authors, don’t have one. Indeed, a Ph.D. is not even an absolutely necessary requirement for being an editor. It depends on the field, and other means of proving your knowledge can suffice. But we can’t just take your word for it, if that’s what you wanted us to do.

As to the “Wikipedia lesson,” my friend, as co-founder of Wikipedia, I am as responsible as anyone for teaching that lesson to the world. It’s just that my understanding of the requirements of a good encyclopedia project are now more sophisticated.

]]> By: Dan F. http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-7733 Dan F. Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:25:22 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-7733 Larry, Congratulations to you and all the contributors on the launch of Citizendium! It looks great and I am sure it will be a great success! "Listen to musn'ts, child, listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the wouldn'ts and the won'ts. Then listen close to me....anything is possible, anything can be." - Shel Silverstein Larry,

Congratulations to you and all the contributors on the launch of Citizendium! It looks great and I am sure it will be a great success!

“Listen to musn’ts, child, listen to the don’ts. Listen to the shouldn’ts, the wouldn’ts and the won’ts. Then listen close to me….anything is possible, anything can be.” - Shel Silverstein

]]> By: andrew http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-9551 andrew Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:58:54 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/05/cz-invites-bottom-up-leadership/#comment-9551 "Bottom-up leadership". Hhhhmmmmm. I'm not sure about the name, but I understand the intention, and like your willingness for others to act on their initiative. Someone I used to work with considered 'bottom-up leadership' as taking workmates to the pub to have a piss-up. But perhaps that was 'bottoms-up', i.e. plural. “Bottom-up leadership”. Hhhhmmmmm.

I’m not sure about the name, but I understand the intention, and like your willingness for others to act on their initiative.

Someone I used to work with considered ‘bottom-up leadership’ as taking workmates to the pub to have a piss-up. But perhaps that was ‘bottoms-up’, i.e. plural.

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