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	<title>Comments on: Big update</title>
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	<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=170</link>
	<description>Weblog about the Citizendium project and its Citizens.</description>
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		<title>By: Citizendium Blog &#187; Reply to Nicholas Carr</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=170#comment-9828</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizendium Blog &#187; Reply to Nicholas Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hoss.   You should probably read up on why the Citizendium will (probably) succeed as well as the most recent update.  I know we were supposed to fail, but apparently we missed the memo &#8212; we&#8217;ve been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hoss.   You should probably read up on why the Citizendium will (probably) succeed as well as the most recent update.  I know we were supposed to fail, but apparently we missed the memo &#8212; we&#8217;ve been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan F.</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=170#comment-9152</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Citizendium has been mentioned on the Huffington Post:

http://huffit.huffingtonpost.com/category/US%20News</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Citizendium has been mentioned on the Huffington Post:</p>
<p><a href="http://huffit.huffingtonpost.com/category/US%20News" rel="nofollow">http://huffit.huffingtonpost.com/category/US%20News</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yuval Langer</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=170#comment-8986</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuval Langer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Big Speedydelete
The Big Write
The Big Cleanup
The Big Update
Life, approved

The Citizendium is truely grandiose :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Big Speedydelete<br />
The Big Write<br />
The Big Cleanup<br />
The Big Update<br />
Life, approved</p>
<p>The Citizendium is truely grandiose :-p</p>
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		<title>By: Andjam</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=170#comment-8921</link>
		<dc:creator>Andjam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't Everest the highest mountain, not the tallest?

"As a result, the Wikipedian "crowd" can often agree upon some pretty ridiculous claims, which are very far from both expert opinion and from anything like an "average" of public opinion on a subject."

I'd be interested in examples of this.

"impressive-looking articles are all too frequently full of errors or half-truths, and—just as bad—poor writing and incoherent organization."

Impressive-looking but with poor writing?

"If Wikipedians actually believe that the credibility of articles is improved by citing things written by experts, will it not improve them even more if people like the experts cited are given a modest role in the project?"

In my humble opinion, not necessarily. Just because dividing people into experts and non-experts works in some circumstances (writing a book with original research) doesn't mean that it will necessarily work in other areas (writing an all-encompassing encyclopedia).

"They have a mysterious, talismanic value, apparently."

It means we have someone else to blame if the content is bad. (Only joking ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Everest the highest mountain, not the tallest?</p>
<p>&#8220;As a result, the Wikipedian &#8220;crowd&#8221; can often agree upon some pretty ridiculous claims, which are very far from both expert opinion and from anything like an &#8220;average&#8221; of public opinion on a subject.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in examples of this.</p>
<p>&#8220;impressive-looking articles are all too frequently full of errors or half-truths, and—just as bad—poor writing and incoherent organization.&#8221;</p>
<p>Impressive-looking but with poor writing?</p>
<p>&#8220;If Wikipedians actually believe that the credibility of articles is improved by citing things written by experts, will it not improve them even more if people like the experts cited are given a modest role in the project?&#8221;</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, not necessarily. Just because dividing people into experts and non-experts works in some circumstances (writing a book with original research) doesn&#8217;t mean that it will necessarily work in other areas (writing an all-encompassing encyclopedia).</p>
<p>&#8220;They have a mysterious, talismanic value, apparently.&#8221;</p>
<p>It means we have someone else to blame if the content is bad. (Only joking &#8230;)</p>
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