Citizendium Blog

May 30, 2007

Why donate to the Citizendium?

Filed under: Funding — Larry Sanger @ 12:40 pm

I’ve been working quite a bit lately on fundraising issues. This was overdue, even if it means I’m not on the wiki as much. Our fundamentals are such that we could be raising a lot of money–but because I am usually so focused on getting this project off the ground, and not on fundraising, we haven’t raised so much money recently, or not since last year (when I was working on it! :-) ).

We now have a seven-page PDF prospectus that I can send to parties that might contemplate supporting CZ with a major donation. Let me know.

There is also now an explanation–as if you needed one–for why folks ought to contribute regularly to CZ: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Donate

Ongoing thanks to Kelly Patterson for helping as Fundraising Assistant. For that matter, thanks to the Executive Committee, which has helped in various ways, and thanks to everyone for making the whole thing possible!

May 24, 2007

The Big Cleanup is complete! And other announcements.

Filed under: Policy, Project growth — Larry Sanger @ 9:12 am

Five announcements here.

(1) Big Cleanup complete

I’m very happy to announce that as of yesterday, the Big Cleanup is complete! It took a little over two months. Not too bad, I think. Thanks again to the people who went through literally thousands of articles systematically and cleaned them up. This has arguably changed the nature of CZ–decidedly for the better. The advantages are listed on CZ:The_Big_Cleanup.

(2) Unchecklisted articles remain

There are still some unchecklisted articles, however–these are articles that were created since we started the Big Cleanup. See: CZ:Unchecklisted_Articles Please feel free to sign up on that page to “checklist” the rest of the articles.

(3) New guideline: always add the checklist to new articles

We can now install a new guideline, which I assume no one will have a problem with. Here it is. NEW GUIDELINE: whenever you create a new article, or you notice that someone else has created a new article, add the article checklist to the talk page. Note that the checklist can now be found conveniently in the sidebar, under “project pages.” I’ve added this guideline to a few different pages in the appropriate places on the wiki.

(4) Next steps?

Now that the Big Cleanup is done and most of our articles are checklisted, we can now use the results for all sorts of new Big Initiatives. So what’s the next Big Thing? Citizens, please look at this Board and make suggestions, or state your opinions about what our top priorities should be next.

(5) Lots of statistics graphs

I just wanted to point out the fine work of Aleksander Stos in creating this helpful statistics page. Thanks, Alex. There’s much else to announce, but it will have to wait until later.

May 17, 2007

Identity necessary for democratic polity

Filed under: Governance, Theory — Larry Sanger @ 7:46 am

Recently I have been thinking a lot about how to construct a “virtual assembly.”  This has led to a set of rules (an amended/expanded version is under consideration), similar to Robert’s Rules.  Since I am a philosopher and most recently (in 2005) taught philosophy of law, I naturally think of the jurisprudence of our endeavor.  So the following occurred to me.

Identity =df. the set of facts, including a real name, associated with a person
Polity =df. a state or other organized community with a government

Here’s a little argument about online communities:

  1. If it is not necessary, in a given system, to confirm a person’s identity, the person may vote multiple times.  (Postulate/observation)
  2. If, in a system, the identities of persons engaged in the democratic process of discussion need not be known, persons among them may create the appearance of a groundswell of support for a view, when it is only one (or a very small number) of people who advocate that view.  (Postulate/observation)
  3. For voting and the democratic process of discussion to be fair, each person’s vote, and voice, must count for just one.  (Postulate/definition of “fairness.”)
  4. Thus, given observations (1) and (2), a system that does not take cognizance of identities is inherently unfair.
  5. For a system to be truly democratic, it must be fair.  (Definition of “democratic.”)
  6. Therefore, a system that does not take cognizance of identities cannot be truly democratic.

Here’s another argument about online communities:

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May 16, 2007

Professor Socrates is sooooo smart

Filed under: Theory — Larry Sanger @ 12:02 pm

This isn’t exactly on topic for this blog, but it is so funny I had to link to it.

Teaching evaluations have become a permanent fixture in the academic environment. These instruments, through which students express their true feelings about classes and professors, can make or break an instructor. What would students say if they had Socrates as a professor?

This class on philosophy was really good, Professor Socrates is sooooo smart, I want to be just like him when I graduate (except not so short). I was amazed at how he could take just about any argument and prove it wrong.

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May 14, 2007

Shop online, support Citizendium

Filed under: Funding, Project growth — Larry Sanger @ 2:51 pm

Want a book, game, or other merchandise of a sort that you buy online?  Then, if you get it from Amazon or Barnes & Noble,

                  please order it through us!

We get 6% of the price you pay — and that adds up!

Let’s give credit where it’s due, Nancy Sculerati, Kelly Patterson, and Jason Potkanski have set up affiliate programs with Amazon and Barnes & Noble, and have been at work on various aspects of our fundraising efforts.  Thanks!

Already, 14 items have been ordered and 8 items shipped from Amazon, which has raised our referral rate (i.e., the percentage of the price you pay that we receive) from 4% to 6%.  We’ve actually received some money already, and we’re very glad to have it.  We’ll announce a dollar amount when we get into four figures.  :-)

With luck, we’ll have even more fundraising news to announce soon.

May 12, 2007

New stats

Filed under: Project growth — Larry Sanger @ 6:55 am

Fascinating new statistics from Aleksander Stos, posted on Citizendium-L.

Mainspace text pages = 2071 -> 2616
Number of redirects  =  1173 -> 1504
Disambig pages       = 22 -> 30
Articles (=textpages-disambig)   = 2049 -> 2586
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CZ_Live              = 1387 -> 1757
Checklisted_Articles = 1238 -> 1900
Internal_Articles    = 876 -> 1398
External_Articles    = 361 -> 503
Stub_Articles        = 223 -> 305
Developing_Articles  = 383 -> 624
Developed_Articles   = 262 -> 457
Approved_Articles    = 11 -> 17

Much more follows.  The bottom line is:

That said, I do not think that making CZ-WP comparison in terms of quantity is very relevant at least at the present stage. Clearly, CZ encourages different working style and priorities that do not  easily translate into stats or make “counters” turn more slowly (e.g. accent on quality/reliability, narrative/introductory style, not creating stubs without clear intent to develop them etc.). I guess CZ will always be different. Now, I made a quantitative comparison just to test the hypothesis (or not-so-rare suggestion) that CZ  is likely to ‘ re-create the failure of Nupedia’. Clearly, the numbers tell us that CZ will (probably) succeed.

Obviously, as I said in an essay not long ago, I agree.  (And note the comparison between the stats in that essay, less than two months ago, and now.)  Thanks very much to Alex.

May 8, 2007

A new Encyclopedia of Life announced

Filed under: Experts, Other projects — Larry Sanger @ 9:09 pm

A new Encyclopedia of Life, which will attempt to catalog all 1.8 million named species, “available everywhere by single access on command” — I think that means free to read, at least – has been announced.  Its two supporting foundations are going to be funding it to the tune of — wait for it — $100 million, over a period of 10 years, this Reuters article reports.

This is stunning news.  With that amount of money, and the partners involved, it seems that chances are good that they’ll do excellent work.  I can easily imagine the Citizendium Biology Workgroup — perhaps our most active — saying to themselves, “Well, what’s the point of our writing articles about species now?”  It’s possible indeed that the EOL will do such a fantastic job that it will render all future of compendia of species useless.  But this is, you have to admit, not very likely.  Perhaps the first thing to notice is that we like to have multiple references, even if we have a truly excellent one in hand.  We have not yet seen the perfect encyclopedia; there will always be room for other approaches.  So to Citizendium’s biologists, I say: there will be a point, because there’s always an interest in and desire for alternative approaches.

Moreover, those of us with experience with business and publishing ventures of various kinds know that it is all too possible, even with a $100 million commitment, to fail to achieve the full vision — indeed, it is probable, since most business ventures fail.  The EOL looks quite a bit like the Digital Universe, which has had an impressive vision, but little else, for quite some time now.  It was Joe Firmage’s vision that attracted me to that project in the first place, and they have had something like over $14 million in funding in the last few years.  But, sadly, there is relatively little to show for the time and money; just what you see on digitaluniverse.net and earthportal.net, and some more stuff going on behind the scenes.  Nothing to sneeze at, perhaps — but not the vision.

But with the EOL, well, the bloom is still on the Rosa, and it looks much better thought-out than the Digital Universe, and also much better focused.  The idea of an encyclopedia focused on all species is an excellent one if for no other reason than that it is both clear and appealing.  The general look and feel of it is excellent as well, and the planned standard sections, such as images, charts, maps, videos, etc., are exciting to contemplate.  The question is whether they will, with their impressive funding and personnel, actually be able to come together and create a new expert content production model that will actually populate those templates with data.  I certainly hope so.

What the Citizendium has going for it is that we are following a model that is — well, I dare not say proven, but at least well supported and not particularly mysterious.  How we might end up with millions of meaty, excellent articles, starting with (ahem) much less money than EOL is starting with, is not hard to understand.  It’s not a foregone conclusion that we’ll achieve that success, but we’re on our way.

If EOL achieves its own great success by borrowing the best of Wikipedia’s processes and attracting a lot of the world’s biologists to the table, they will have pioneered a method that can be used in every field.  That is exciting and something to hope for, regardless of what it might mean for the Citizendium.

Wales’ comments on Wired.com

Filed under: Press & blogs, Other projects — Larry Sanger @ 12:13 pm

UPDATE, May 16: my reply to Jimmy Wales’ comment have been posted on wired.com, with both the comment and my reply now moved to the end of the article.

I hate being engaged in a public controversy, but I find myself in one anyway.  The controversy was summed up in the following mercifully brief way in the Wired.com/Assignment Zero article about Citizendium:

The drama raging between the two information pioneers [me and Jimmy Wales] goes well beyond the scope of mere competing websites; it’s fueled by a well-documented professional-gone-personal conflict between Sanger and Wales about the paternity of Wikipedia. Sanger wrote the essay for kuro5hin that introduced Wikipedia. In the essay he credited himself as the “chief instigator of Wikipedia.” Wales wrote extensive comments to the essay, but not once did he object to Sanger’s crediting. Now Wales insists that Wikipedia was his own sole creation. He chafes at Sanger’s usual co-founder credit as “absurd,” going so far as to tell the Sydney Morning Herald that Sanger was just one of twenty people working on the project.

Also merciful was the next line: 

Wales refused interview requests for this article.

But, at some time after the article was posted, an “Editor’s note” was inserted, which reports Jimmy Wales’ views.  I’m no journalist, but I am a long-time consumer of online news, and I have never seen an editor’s note, of this sort, inserted into an Internet news article after publication — much less one that gives one side of a controversy three paragraphs to state views that, in my opinion, are libelous.  I was not given any opportunity to rebut the claims Wales made; I just happened to come across them today as I was glancing over the Wired article again.

Wales has made similar remarks before, but only privately and to Wikipedians.  He’s never said such outrageous things to a reputable news organization, or, if he has, the editors have had the good sense not to repeat them.

Here is my reply to Jimmy Wales’ remarks.

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May 5, 2007

Citizendium Facebook group

Filed under: Authors, Other projects — Larry Sanger @ 9:10 am

Somebody set up a Facebook group for Citizendium, so I figured, why not — I joined.  Actually, I made a Facebook account in order to join.  I’ve even been “poked” now.

May 4, 2007

Short Introduction to Citizendium

Filed under: Press & blogs, Other projects — Mike Johnson @ 7:03 pm

CHiLLi.cc has posted a short article on how (and why) Citizendium differs from Wikipedia, written by yours truly (Mike). I’d recommend it as a pretty good introduction to the most salient differences.

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