Comments on: “Broken beyond repair”–a bit out of context http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=166 Weblog about the Citizendium project and its Citizens. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:38:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Joe Szilagyi http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=166#comment-8343 Joe Szilagyi Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:45:38 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/11/broken-beyond-repair-a-bit-out-of-context/#comment-8343 The fact that people have to in theory edit with their real names on CZ and the fact they don't on Wikipedia is a major reason why Wikipedia IS broken so horrifically. Wikipedia is just a video game to many, because they can do whatever they want from the safety of a fake name. Essjay, anyone? The fact that people have to in theory edit with their real names on CZ and the fact they don’t on Wikipedia is a major reason why Wikipedia IS broken so horrifically. Wikipedia is just a video game to many, because they can do whatever they want from the safety of a fake name. Essjay, anyone?

]]> By: luke http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=166#comment-7950 luke Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:06:41 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/11/broken-beyond-repair-a-bit-out-of-context/#comment-7950 The Times story was covered quite widely here in the UK. It was discussed on the 'Sky' half-hour paper review on Tuesday night. I saw the 6 o'clock news, with Rory Cellan-Jones's report starting @ 6.21 which included a short interview with David Gerard as he mentions above, and an interview with someone called Ian Grant from Encyclopedia Britannica who was confident their stuff can be trusted. Rory's report showed how to edit your Wikipedia entry - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Cellan-Jones for the results (he later seems to have gifted WP a nice CC pic as compensation for the fun.) The same day 'El Reg' had a nice story about WP edits - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/11/trust_nobody_on_the_internet/ Some people have all the fun :) The Times story was covered quite widely here in the UK. It was discussed on the ‘Sky’ half-hour paper review on Tuesday night.

I saw the 6 o’clock news, with Rory Cellan-Jones’s report starting @ 6.21 which included a short interview with David Gerard as he mentions above, and an interview with someone called Ian Grant from Encyclopedia Britannica who was confident their stuff can be trusted.

Rory’s report showed how to edit your Wikipedia entry - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Cellan-Jones for the results (he later seems to have gifted WP a nice CC pic as compensation for the fun.)

The same day ‘El Reg’ had a nice story about WP edits - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/11/trust_nobody_on_the_internet/ Some people have all the fun :)

]]> By: David Gerard http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=166#comment-7892 David Gerard Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:41:30 +0000 http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/04/11/broken-beyond-repair-a-bit-out-of-context/#comment-7892 Yeah, I woke up to calls from the BBC and the Press Association (for their industry magazine) this morning. The media going "let's you and him fight" ;-) They tried for a juicy fighting quote back from Wikipedia - I just said that Citizendium looks good so far, good community, there's gotta be more than one way to do this, the more open content the better. I also spoke of how to use Wikipedia in the class: it's good and useful, but you have to learn how to think about what you read. So a teacher can teach kids how to read Wikipedia, blogs, autobiographies, Citizendium, Britannica, the newspaper, etc. The BBC wanted a quote for camera, which should be on the BBC1 six o'clock news this evening. An hour's filming for likely seven to ten seconds. Yeah, I woke up to calls from the BBC and the Press Association (for their industry magazine) this morning. The media going “let’s you and him fight” ;-) They tried for a juicy fighting quote back from Wikipedia - I just said that Citizendium looks good so far, good community, there’s gotta be more than one way to do this, the more open content the better.

I also spoke of how to use Wikipedia in the class: it’s good and useful, but you have to learn how to think about what you read. So a teacher can teach kids how to read Wikipedia, blogs, autobiographies, Citizendium, Britannica, the newspaper, etc.

The BBC wanted a quote for camera, which should be on the BBC1 six o’clock news this evening. An hour’s filming for likely seven to ten seconds.

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