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	<title>Comments on: A note about the word &#8220;founder&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Weblog about the Citizendium project and its Citizens.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: April 6th, 2009 &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=448#comment-208939</link>
		<dc:creator>IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: April 6th, 2009 &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wales is taking all the credit for Wikipedia  http://blog.citizendium.org/2009/04&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wales is taking all the credit for Wikipedia  <a href="http://blog.citizendium.org/2009/04&#8230" rel="nofollow">http://blog.citizendium.org/2009/04&#8230</a>; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chunbum Park</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=448#comment-208780</link>
		<dc:creator>Chunbum Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does Jimmy have to gain by pressing on this controversy? At least Wikipedians have had enough sense to cite you as the co-founder in your biography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Jimmy have to gain by pressing on this controversy? At least Wikipedians have had enough sense to cite you as the co-founder in your biography.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Kohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Kohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the History tab of Jimmy Wales' Wikipedia User:Talk page, there have been several people trying to ask Jimbo publicly about his "flip flop" from co-founder to sole-founder.  Every person who tries to ask, their account is banned, the IP address blocked, and the question removed from view.

The Wikipediots wouldn't want Jimbo to get flustered with something as painful as the historical truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the History tab of Jimmy Wales&#8217; Wikipedia User:Talk page, there have been several people trying to ask Jimbo publicly about his &#8220;flip flop&#8221; from co-founder to sole-founder.  Every person who tries to ask, their account is banned, the IP address blocked, and the question removed from view.</p>
<p>The Wikipediots wouldn&#8217;t want Jimbo to get flustered with something as painful as the historical truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Links 06/04/2009: IBM Withdraws Sun Offer, Linux Gets FS-Cache &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=448#comment-208659</link>
		<dc:creator>Links 06/04/2009: IBM Withdraws Sun Offer, Linux Gets FS-Cache &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A note about the word “founder” I have largely bit my tongue in the four or five years since Jimmy Wales stopped credited me as co-founder of Wikipedia. There are many things I have not said, or that I could say more pointedly, but which I did not. This is partly because I don’t like a scandal, but mostly it’s because I was raised to be modest, and to press my advantage always seemed in bad taste to me (even if it’s de rigeur for so many). But I will no longer mince words when Jimmy Wales continues to lie and misrepresent to the media — as he has done in a recent Hot Press interview the contents of which I’ve seen — about my role. It is deeply disappointing that Wales continues on shamelessly as he has been doing, after this long, and in spite of the shockingly poor match between his claims and the living record available online. The interview I mentioned, along with the recent rediscovery of a comment in which Wales called himself “co-founder” of Wikipedia in 2002, are really the straw that broke this camel’s back. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A note about the word “founder” I have largely bit my tongue in the four or five years since Jimmy Wales stopped credited me as co-founder of Wikipedia. There are many things I have not said, or that I could say more pointedly, but which I did not. This is partly because I don’t like a scandal, but mostly it’s because I was raised to be modest, and to press my advantage always seemed in bad taste to me (even if it’s de rigeur for so many). But I will no longer mince words when Jimmy Wales continues to lie and misrepresent to the media — as he has done in a recent Hot Press interview the contents of which I’ve seen — about my role. It is deeply disappointing that Wales continues on shamelessly as he has been doing, after this long, and in spite of the shockingly poor match between his claims and the living record available online. The interview I mentioned, along with the recent rediscovery of a comment in which Wales called himself “co-founder” of Wikipedia in 2002, are really the straw that broke this camel’s back. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://blog.citizendium.org/?p=448#comment-208470</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

I submit modesty not the issue.  The issue: the growth of Citizendium.  The online documentation of your founding role in Wikipedia speaks for itself.  That your dissatifaction with the quality of Wikipedia led you to start up Citizendium sans those 'quality' impediments gives special credit to Citizendium. I personally urge you to speak out boldly.  Write an article: "The founding of Wikipedia and Citizendium". It might go a long way toward recruiting for Citizendium.

Anthony.Sebastian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I submit modesty not the issue.  The issue: the growth of Citizendium.  The online documentation of your founding role in Wikipedia speaks for itself.  That your dissatifaction with the quality of Wikipedia led you to start up Citizendium sans those &#8216;quality&#8217; impediments gives special credit to Citizendium. I personally urge you to speak out boldly.  Write an article: &#8220;The founding of Wikipedia and Citizendium&#8221;. It might go a long way toward recruiting for Citizendium.</p>
<p>Anthony.Sebastian</p>
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